Subject	Need opinions/ideas/advice from the experienced on Coilovers
Posted by	MAD_96TT(MO) on February 27, 2008 at 2:20 AM
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Message	I have been doing a lot of research on here and other sites about coilovers. I have decided to go with a coilover setup instead of my initial decision of KYB/Eibach's despite reading this article "Fully-Adjustable Coilover Suspension for the street?", which is a good read if anyone is toying with the idea of using coilovers. The main reason being the adjustability of the ride height and the ability to fine tune dampening. I mainly drive my z on the streets as a semi-daily driver, but will be doing a few auto-cross events when I feel my suspension is up to par...plus I love hitting the twisties. I am fully aware of how harsh the ride will be, and look forward to it. I am also aware of having to get the car corner balanced and such as well, although I don't believe that it cost $2k to do it as the above link mentions. I want a sports car, not a cadillac. That's how I see it. Anyhow, with that being said I have limited it down to a few different options: 1.)Tein SS Coilover w/EDFC: ~$1250 2.)Tein Flex Coilover w/EDFC: ~$1650 From what I have read on Tein's website, it seems like I would be able to adjust the ride height without having to go back to have the corner balancing redone with the Flex setup due to their Full Length Adjustability: "Vehicle ride height and spring pre-load can be adjusted independently. Ride height is adjustable in two ways: a. adjustable shock length, and b. adjustable spring seat. a. The lower mounting bracket can be adjusted, thus changing the overall length of the shock, and therefore altering the vehicle's ride height. This also allows the user to determine suspension travel and droop. b. The adjustable spring seat allows for independent adjustment of spring pre-load without affecting vehicle ride height. Aluminum spring seats are utilized to reduce ceasing of spring seat to threaded body, and for improved durability. " ^^Taken from Tein's website^^ It seems that this would be a good route to go to avoid getting them corner balanced everytime I mess with the ride height. I am guessing the Tein SS and SPL coilover setup will need to be corner balanced each time I mess with it. I know the EDFC is probably overkill, but I just think it is neat how it can be switched on the fly. Especially when there is more than just two settings. 3.)SPL Coilovers: ~$1095 The point of this post is this...given that my car will mainly see the streets, which of the three do you guys think will adequately serve my purpose. I mainly want to know from the people that run these setups how they like them? Opinions and experiences with these coilovers will be greatly appreciated. I also understand that there is lots of info in the search function...trust me I just finished doing that for the last 6 hours(front desk job=8hrs of internet)...but I am looking for some up to date opinions/experiences. I read a couple of posts back around 00-02 and alot of people seemed to feel coilovers where strictly for racing. Seems development has come a long ways in a few years. Now, most people run them it seems. BTW..I know this is pretty much a noob question, but if I use coilovers do I need the full rubber gaskets/bushings set that Coz sells? I am pretty sure I know the answer to this, but I had to ask for clarification. If no, then it is almost pointless to go with KYB/Eibach because after you buy shocks,struts,camber compensation kit, and the bushings/gaskets kit you are practically pushing $1,000.....SPL's are only $1,095. I guess it is good to go the KYB route if you want minimum adjustability and piece of mind. To each their own I guess. Sorry for the life story, I appreciate any help. Another good read if anyone is interested.... "Making It Stick". Admins...sorry if this is in the wrong forum. I couldn't decide if it was general or technical. I didn't figure it was a technical question. Feel free to move if necessary. Z's Kick Ass!! Boost - It's An Addiction! "Like a retired James Bond, the Z exudes an air of understated class." ------> Sports Compact Car Magazine
Follow Ups	Need opinions/ideas/advice from the experienced on Coilovers - MAD_96TT(MO) 02:20:48 02/27/08 Hey.. that Z in your sig is not a 94' - Kong ZTT GT28RS MD 03:14:41 02/27/08 You would think they'd get a simple detail right. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 07:44:51 02/27/08 Re: Hey.. that Z in your sig is not a 94' - jickel180 08:39:09 02/27/08 definitely seems that way cost wise since you don't have - MAD_96TT(MO) 11:39:09 02/27/08 they are indeed top notch, as is the service from SPL (n/m) - Guapo 11:40:12 02/27/08 94 and up switched to body color in place of the - BigTDogg (MA) 12:54:05 02/27/08 what makes you say that? - Atl300zxTT 09:19:46 02/27/08 I think that's when they made the fascia a solid color (n/m) - en5 09:40:44 02/27/08 Incorrect (n/m) - nazgul 09:49:51 02/27/08 thought that was 95 (n/m) - Tikigod (Denver) 09:50:09 02/27/08 95 and 96 had solid color. 94 still had the black strip. (n/m) - 300zx2g35 09:53:28 02/27/08 You're wrong moron! - en5 10:04:51 02/27/08 SPL everything. (n/m) - ali300zx 07:57:27 02/27/08 i'd say for price alone and expected quality spl/kts (n/m) - i_drive 07:59:44 02/27/08 second - Alan(NJ) 08:24:14 02/27/08 For a long time - ENVYMYZ 08:28:45 02/27/08 Lemmings, lol (n/m) - John@z1 08:49:20 02/27/08 if memory serves, nobody said they were bad for the street - ZEngineer 08:51:35 02/27/08 George, you know exactly what I'm talking about. - ENVYMYZ 08:58:52 02/27/08 wurd. (n/m) - ZEngineer 09:01:34 02/27/08 E-Hug? (n/m) - ENVYMYZ 09:06:06 02/27/08 you two should get an E-room. :) (n/m) - Cap927(Boston) 09:09:50 02/27/08 You're just E-jealous, bish! - ENVYMYZ 09:17:35 02/27/08 prior to SPL offering their streetable coilovers, - Guapo 10:24:52 02/27/08 You also recommend 18"+ wheels... - BradZ (FL) 14:59:06 02/27/08 That was proven? - PennStateZ (VA) 16:22:44 02/27/08 "Ask any real racer..." - BradZ (FL) 11:47:47 02/28/08 No it has not been "proven". And for crybaby Bradley - ENVYMYZ 14:56:00 02/28/08 Nope. Your "feedback" is worthless. (n/m) - BradZ (FL) 15:22:48 02/28/08 You mean like all of your posts? (n/m) - ENVYMYZ 15:56:39 02/28/08 At least we can agree on something. (n/m) - BradZ (FL) 18:47:57 02/28/08 Defentely go with SPL... - Bama Z 09:13:49 02/27/08 False. - ENVYMYZ 09:20:48 02/27/08 lol (n/m) - LJZTT 11:24:14 02/27/08 Eibach and tokicos are nice but - ztunerz 12:05:23 02/27/08 :) - ENVYMYZ 13:43:55 02/27/08 Useless. (n/m) - BradZ (FL) 12:17:22 02/27/08 2nd =) (n/m) - ZEngineer 09:22:57 02/27/08 Changing the ride height affects the corner balance - kuah@splparts.com 09:29:44 02/27/08 Thanks Kuah. That helps out a lot. Sounds like the SPL's are - MAD_96TT(MO) 11:28:40 02/27/08 You don't HAVE to get your car corner balanced. Just - Inzane 10:23:50 02/27/08 good point. I still haven't had either of my cars corner - sfarrah 10:40:26 02/27/08 overkill overkill and overkill - LJZTT 11:37:06 02/27/08 not so much but thanks for playing. (n/m) - Guapo 11:39:04 02/27/08 What's wrong with them, seem to be ideal for his/my - LJZTT 11:41:19 02/27/08 IMO, GC's are one step up from cutting springs to lower ride - Guapo 12:05:22 02/27/08 yup and they have rattling / noise issues as well (n/m) - ztunerz 12:10:13 02/27/08 Nothing a bit of cut rubber hose wedged between the - dogpile 14:42:12 02/27/08 Not all of them. (n/m) - PennStateZ (VA) 16:25:16 02/27/08 >>> - ztunerz 12:08:50 02/27/08 So despite the flexibility in spring rates you can order - LJZTT 19:10:36 02/27/08 That is not what I said - kuah@splparts.com 12:56:58 02/27/08 Hey Kuah, I will most likely be getting ahold of you - MAD_96TT(MO) 16:44:10 02/27/08 So after rereading, is it safe to say that the GC kit is - LJZTT 19:19:29 02/27/08 ...and my bad on mis-quoting your post, what I took from it - LJZTT 19:24:39 02/27/08 Don't use magazine articles as your basis for mod selection. (n/m) - Inzane 13:03:09 02/27/08 Written by Michael W Smith, as documentation of his project - LJZTT 18:58:06 02/27/08 Personally - ENVYMYZ 13:40:38 02/27/08 Kuah...When's the next GB on the SPL's? (n/m) - ryanholi0 13:59:54 02/27/08 2nd (n/m) - MAD_96TT(MO) 16:22:15 02/27/08 Half the cost? $400 for the GCs + new shocks + shock install - dogpile 14:37:51 02/27/08 he never said his shocks were toast, seemed like a good - LJZTT 19:02:46 02/27/08 "install stuffs" = bushings/gaskets you should replace too. - dogpile 20:24:32 02/27/08 gotcha, misread your "stuffs" - LJZTT 12:16:50 02/28/08 You need to specify which shocks you'll use so you get - dogpile 18:24:06 02/28/08 And if he was looking at the KYB/Eibachs, he was looking for - dogpile 20:26:09 02/27/08 Re: Need opinions/ideas/advice from the experienced on Coilo - ouikikazz 14:03:47 02/27/08 Thanks ouikikazz. I appreciate the insight...I look forward - MAD_96TT(MO) 16:34:39 02/27/08 3rd on the GB! - MAG300ZX 20:10:42 02/27/08
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